What do you do in the music industry?
I produce and DJ and rap and sing… I do whatever comes my way.
How long have you worked in the music industry?
Pretty much forever… I got into the music industry through dance initially and working with the Indigenous Hip Hop Projects where I got to meet people who rapped and produced and inspired me to get going.
How did you get to where you are today?
Through Indigenous Hip Hop Projects and the opportunities that came up through this involvement. For example I started working with people who were unreal rappers and it wasn’t this thing of copying it was just I felt that I could do it.
I got into producing music and DJing because my brother Jacob started doing it and I wanted to be better than him. We’re really competitive and so it was this constant thing of us each trying to beat each other and create better and cooler stuff.
Eventually we started working together rather than against each other and it’s unreal. We have Daktal our DJing thing, and Jakubi, our live band.
What is your relevant training or experience?
I’m basically all self-taught, and I’m constantly learning new things and I think there’s always going to be more to learn.
I tried to have my first formal lessons this year! I wanted to start getting some singing lessons but the teacher wanted to get me singing musical theatre styles… not really my thing. And it was kind of the same routine that they teach everyone, and I don’t want to just sound like everyone else.
But again, I do think that there is always more to learn so if I could get music lessons that trains my voice rather than just how to sing in general then that would be awesome.
Who are your influences and why?
For producing and beats definitely artists like Breakbot and
For producing – definitely 100% Breakbot and Turismo.
Breakbot is this producer in France – Jacob and me used to listen to him.
When we were younger we used to listen to Snoop and Dre and we’d turn the TV off and pretend we were in the film clip and rap but for beats definitely breakbot and these days definitely M phases a guy from Melbourne.
Dad used to play us all these old funk bands – James Brown etc but I don’t remember this. But I do hear that in our band Jakubi but I can’t remember that totally.
I do see a clear connection between dance and music. With dance you understand each beat. I think a good song, if you’re making a funk song you know you’re making something that people can dance to.
I definitely see this in my Jakubi shows. Like if people are dancing then I feel like we’re doing good. If the crowd is into it you feed off it and you know you’re doing good.
You’ve gotta… With the band it’s a show as well. When we first started I’d play head down and didn’t care about the music etc. Then we started playing more shows and I started connecting more with the audiences and you get so much more from the gig.
What are your ultimate goals for your work within the music industry?
Do yourself! Don’t try and copy people. If you write a rap just write whatever comes out. Don’t plan what you’re doing it – it doesn’t work like that.
If you’re producing just do what happens… A brief can make it hard but I’ve been doing it for ages so I can sort of do that now. But even when I do it I know the song won’t be my favourite – it’s writing to a formula.
What can you offer people who use NLS?
Anything! I can make them a beat, I can write them lyrics, and I can pretty much make them a whole song! I can teach them how to dance.